Posts by Jules Saturn

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Interesting conversation with JW friend

by Jules Saturn in

i was withh a friend of mine who is a jw still and for whatever reason we started talking the bible.

i asked him about lazarus and how is that when he died he paid the price of sin, but then jesus resurrected him.

and i asked him "where is lazarus today?

Jules Saturn

@Giles Gray

Completely forgot about that! I mention it the next time I ask this question to a JW, thank you for thag

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Interesting conversation with JW friend

by Jules Saturn in

i was withh a friend of mine who is a jw still and for whatever reason we started talking the bible.

i asked him about lazarus and how is that when he died he paid the price of sin, but then jesus resurrected him.

and i asked him "where is lazarus today?

Jules Saturn

@berrygerry

Well see that makes more sense, thank you actually

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Interesting conversation with JW friend

by Jules Saturn in

i was withh a friend of mine who is a jw still and for whatever reason we started talking the bible.

i asked him about lazarus and how is that when he died he paid the price of sin, but then jesus resurrected him.

and i asked him "where is lazarus today?

I was withh a friend of mine who is a JW still and for whatever reason we started talking the Bible. I asked him about Lazarus and how is that when he died he paid the price of sin, but then Jesus resurrected him. And I asked him "Where is Lazarus today? Shouldn't he be with us? He paid the price of sin, he has no debt to pay" and my friend thought for a moment and he reasoned:

"Yeah but Jesus resurrected him to show people around that time and us today reading the Bible, what he can do and what he will do. When he resurrected Lazarus, he was still an imperfect man, so he still was imperfect and would die again."

He still couldn't not answer why though, if Lazarus paid the price of sin. It seems honestly like he was struggling to come to the conclusion he came to.

Another topic we spoke about was the Nephilim and I explained to him how it couldn't be possible, for me anyways, for angels (spiritual superior beings) to find attractiveness and lust in humans because those are human traits. I even explained to him, that it's like a person who feels lust for an animal. I told him that I was always under the impression that angels were all powerful and perfect, that Jehovah had created them.

He reasoned that Satan had corrupted them but when he said that I started thinking to myself, were the angels that easily corruptible?

Anyway, I left it like that but whenever I can I like to engage in little biblical discussions like this with other JWs. Thoughts?

~Jules

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Halloween/holidays

by Jules Saturn in

didn't know exactly which subject area to put this under, but i was curious about what you guys do around this time for holidays, particularly halloween.

my view on halloween in particular has always been as this pagan, demonic celebration.

even now that i discovered ttatt i still feel the same way i do about halloween, i don't ever think it's something i'd celebrate.

Jules Saturn

@Wake Me Up

Very true 😂

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Halloween/holidays

by Jules Saturn in

didn't know exactly which subject area to put this under, but i was curious about what you guys do around this time for holidays, particularly halloween.

my view on halloween in particular has always been as this pagan, demonic celebration.

even now that i discovered ttatt i still feel the same way i do about halloween, i don't ever think it's something i'd celebrate.

Jules Saturn

Didn't know exactly which subject area to put this under, but I was curious about what you guys do around this time for holidays, particularly Halloween. My view on Halloween in particular has always been as this pagan, demonic celebration. Even now that I discovered TTATT I still feel the same way I do about Halloween, I don't ever think it's something I'd celebrate. If any of you have raised children outside of the Org, what do you tell them if they desire to celebrate holidays or even birthdays?

~Jules

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Need help understanding the Overlapping Generation teaching

by Jules Saturn in

so this is a topic that seriously boggles my mind and please correct me if i'm wrong.

to me, the jw definition of the overlapping generation teaching is that the lives of the anointed from 1914 overlap with the lives of the anointed right now.

david splane used the example of fred franz and how he finished his "earthly course" in 1992 but while he did, he had a lot of "contemporaries" that outlived him and are currently living today.

Jules Saturn

@jp

I actually really liked the information, thank you for posting that

@waton

You know I didn't really think about it that way, and you're right, it is a distortion of words that were written, going beyond what is written

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JW Rumor: End of the Traveling Overseer

by Edison Trent in

a friend of mine has contacts to a family with several circuit overseers and special pioneers.

they have good connections to bethel.. he told me that the latest rumor from bethel states that the cos should be abolished in their present form.

they have also recently begun to take cos back to bethel.. over the same channel i have already heard of the car fleet program and that the dos should be abolished.. has anyone else already heard of it?

Jules Saturn

If this is true I'd expect an announcement at the annual meeting coming this weekend

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J.W.'s reliance on Matthew 24:14

by The Fall Guy in

virtually every j.w.

will gladly tell you that matthew 24:14 proves that only they are god's true people/religion, because they are the only people preaching the good news worldwide today.

crucially, they double-down on this lame bet by adding that their worldwide preaching proves another wtbts teaching, namely, that we are living in "the last days.

Jules Saturn

Wish this was posted a few weeks ago before my shepherding call!

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Need help understanding the Overlapping Generation teaching

by Jules Saturn in

so this is a topic that seriously boggles my mind and please correct me if i'm wrong.

to me, the jw definition of the overlapping generation teaching is that the lives of the anointed from 1914 overlap with the lives of the anointed right now.

david splane used the example of fred franz and how he finished his "earthly course" in 1992 but while he did, he had a lot of "contemporaries" that outlived him and are currently living today.

Jules Saturn

@Vanderhoven7

Thank you for all of that information, very useful and appreciated.

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Need help understanding the Overlapping Generation teaching

by Jules Saturn in

so this is a topic that seriously boggles my mind and please correct me if i'm wrong.

to me, the jw definition of the overlapping generation teaching is that the lives of the anointed from 1914 overlap with the lives of the anointed right now.

david splane used the example of fred franz and how he finished his "earthly course" in 1992 but while he did, he had a lot of "contemporaries" that outlived him and are currently living today.

Jules Saturn

What do you think is the future of this? They can't keep this teaching. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Splane said something about how the generation could go as long to the point where it's possible that Witnesses can read about the current GB in a future updated version of the Proclaimers book, but basically implying that it can carry on for another 30 years until it has to be revised again.